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	<title>Comments on: Things are never black and white</title>
	<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/</link>
	<description>Erika Carney Haub's musings on life and God from South Central, L.A.</description>
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		<title>by: erika</title>
		<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/#comment-4157</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Staubs. Kathy and Dick are like second parents to me. They are also my daughter's Godparents. I grew up babysitting their children, and they moved to Chicago my freshman year at North Park, much to my mom and dad's great relief! They are now back in Seattle at the church I grew up in.

And I of course know the O'Donnells and the DeGrados also, though it has been a while since I have seen either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Staubs. Kathy and Dick are like second parents to me. They are also my daughter&#8217;s Godparents. I grew up babysitting their children, and they moved to Chicago my freshman year at North Park, much to my mom and dad&#8217;s great relief! They are now back in Seattle at the church I grew up in.</p>
<p>And I of course know the O&#8217;Donnells and the DeGrados also, though it has been a while since I have seen either.
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		<title>by: kent</title>
		<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/#comment-4155</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Were your friends the O'Donnell, the Staubs or the DeGrados? The DeGrados and Staubs went to Seattle area before I arrived in 2000, and Marty and Marcie left shortly after I arrived. 

I love the Covenant, but imagination in the ministry models has never been their forte. That you serve without compensation is awesome. Blessings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were your friends the O&#8217;Donnell, the Staubs or the DeGrados? The DeGrados and Staubs went to Seattle area before I arrived in 2000, and Marty and Marcie left shortly after I arrived. </p>
<p>I love the Covenant, but imagination in the ministry models has never been their forte. That you serve without compensation is awesome. Blessings.
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		<title>by: erika</title>
		<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/#comment-4147</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks, Kent! Good to know our names are indeed in The Book of Life :)

Danny is the only paid staff person, and I am learning that "the paycheck" is the significant distinction in the Covenant in terms of identifying who the "pastors" are. Our situation doesn't so much fit that model!

Thank you for the encouragement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kent! Good to know our names are indeed in The Book of Life <img src='http://erika.haub.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Danny is the only paid staff person, and I am learning that &#8220;the paycheck&#8221; is the significant distinction in the Covenant in terms of identifying who the &#8220;pastors&#8221; are. Our situation doesn&#8217;t so much fit that model!</p>
<p>Thank you for the encouragement!
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		<title>by: kent</title>
		<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/#comment-4146</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ohhh, you are in the "book of life" page 135, green edition, and you are listed as the chairperson! Impressive, very impressive. They just don't have you or Doug in the pastoral roll called up yonder. Their loss.  I hope the plant thrives and prospers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhh, you are in the &#8220;book of life&#8221; page 135, green edition, and you are listed as the chairperson! Impressive, very impressive. They just don&#8217;t have you or Doug in the pastoral roll called up yonder. Their loss.  I hope the plant thrives and prospers.
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		<title>by: erika</title>
		<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/#comment-4133</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 16:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Our church is called "Church of the Redeemer", but the Covenant has it listed under various names at various times. I think one of their listings is "Covenant Church of the Redeemer." We are a four year old church plant, and our Senior Pastor is Danny Martinez. We serve alongside him on the pastoral team. We are being formally accepted as a Covenant Church this spring at the PSWC annual meeting, so maybe they wait until then to put you in the Book of Life :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our church is called &#8220;Church of the Redeemer&#8221;, but the Covenant has it listed under various names at various times. I think one of their listings is &#8220;Covenant Church of the Redeemer.&#8221; We are a four year old church plant, and our Senior Pastor is Danny Martinez. We serve alongside him on the pastoral team. We are being formally accepted as a Covenant Church this spring at the PSWC annual meeting, so maybe they wait until then to put you in the Book of Life <img src='http://erika.haub.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: kent</title>
		<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/#comment-4127</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yup that is me. What church do you and Doug serve? I did the "Covenant" thing and tried to look you up in the "book of life" yearbook but to no avail. You are always welcometo retreat here any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup that is me. What church do you and Doug serve? I did the &#8220;Covenant&#8221; thing and tried to look you up in the &#8220;book of life&#8221; yearbook but to no avail. You are always welcometo retreat here any time.
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		<title>by: erika</title>
		<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/#comment-3992</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks, Kent. If I am correct, you are the pastor at Naperville Cov.? I used to spend a lot of time out there when I was at North Park because our really close family friends were a part of that congregation (they have since moved back to Seattle). Naperville (and their house in particular) was like my "retreat place" for many years. Blessings to you in your ministry there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kent. If I am correct, you are the pastor at Naperville Cov.? I used to spend a lot of time out there when I was at North Park because our really close family friends were a part of that congregation (they have since moved back to Seattle). Naperville (and their house in particular) was like my &#8220;retreat place&#8221; for many years. Blessings to you in your ministry there!
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		<title>by: kent</title>
		<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/#comment-3985</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I often read your blog and I always find you comment fascinating and insightful. I look forward to them. Thank you for challenging me in the path you have chosen to walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often read your blog and I always find you comment fascinating and insightful. I look forward to them. Thank you for challenging me in the path you have chosen to walk.
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		<title>by: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://erika.haub.net/things-are-never-black-and-white/02/#comment-3976</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That's beautiful.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s beautiful.  Thank you.
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