Comments on: Listening http://erika.haub.net/listening/07/ Erika Carney Haub's musings on life and God from South Central, L.A. Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:02:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Deb http://erika.haub.net/listening/07/comment-page-1/#comment-54795 Deb Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:14:25 +0000 http://erika.haub.net/listening/07/#comment-54795 Erika--I am grateful for what you shared here. I think the examples of a "black service" or a quota of spanish songs play into notions of tokenism--that if we have one (service, week, month etc) that we have fulfilled our *obligation* and now we can consider ourselves inclusive. I definitely think the true test, as the woman seemed to indicate, of our inclusiveness is the true embrace of the "other" that we offer--is *their* music, style, prayers etc accepted and even celebrated on any occassion or only on special ones? is *their* presence noted? does it exist? and are we always pointing *them* out or are we an *us* (and not in the imperialistic they've assimilated sense of us either)? Erika–I am grateful for what you shared here. I think the examples of a “black service” or a quota of spanish songs play into notions of tokenism–that if we have one (service, week, month etc) that we have fulfilled our *obligation* and now we can consider ourselves inclusive. I definitely think the true test, as the woman seemed to indicate, of our inclusiveness is the true embrace of the “other” that we offer–is *their* music, style, prayers etc accepted and even celebrated on any occassion or only on special ones? is *their* presence noted? does it exist? and are we always pointing *them* out or are we an *us* (and not in the imperialistic they’ve assimilated sense of us either)?

]]> By: Xochitl http://erika.haub.net/listening/07/comment-page-1/#comment-54718 Xochitl Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:47:06 +0000 http://erika.haub.net/listening/07/#comment-54718 Impact vs. Intention - that is the fine line, and I think you definitely hit it on the head Erika...it at least does require listening (as you titled your post) and having an actual openness to the experience of others. Impact vs. Intention - that is the fine line, and I think you definitely hit it on the head Erika…it at least does require listening (as you titled your post) and having an actual openness to the experience of others.

]]> By: Christine http://erika.haub.net/listening/07/comment-page-1/#comment-54707 Christine Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:55:20 +0000 http://erika.haub.net/listening/07/#comment-54707 Erica, This is powerful. Is the rest off her account available online? Would love to read more. Thanks. Erica,

This is powerful. Is the rest off her account available online? Would love to read more.

Thanks.

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